Who's Controlling Who?
An Interview With David Icke
By Joseph W. Duggan
Originally printed in Shared-Vision Magazine
Joseph Duggan: David, what have you been up to since we talked
almost a year ago?
David Icke: Well, I'm just on my
way to spend a month in South Africa where I have television interviews
and a whole series of lectures and talk shows lined up. They are very
interested in my information because they realize that there is
something big going on in the world arena as well as within their own
country. Because of their relative isolation, they are very keen to hear
information from outside their country. What is interesting to me, as I
travel, is that exactly the same agenda is being implemented in every
country I travel to. Because people from different countries don't talk
to each other and the international media are being used to bring about
the changes desired by the global elite, nobody realizes this. For
instance, in every country I've visited, they are struggling to maintain
access to herbs and supplements under the onslaught of codex and the
WTO. Social services and support for workers are being dismantled on a
global scale as country after country adopts the austerity measures
being forced on them by the international bankers who have actually
created the economic problems in the first place. Yet most people think
that their problems are unique to their own country; this is far from
the truth.
Joseph Duggan: Do you have a deeper understanding of this global
agenda now?
David Icke: I can chart, with
illustrations, how the same group, starting in the ancient world, has
manipulated humanity up to the present day. Their organizations,
corporate assets as well as secret societies can be traced by
understanding the true meaning of everyday names and logos including the
real meaning of Columbia. What their agenda amounts to is basically
using every tool at their disposal to maintain the status quo and their
power base. Everything from mass mind control, economic enslavement,
political control, media control, and military control are being used to
implement a program to bring about complete domination of the world.
Joseph Duggan: What about the constitution and bill of rights, as well as
the BNA Act in Canada? Don't these protect citizens from
domination by a few?
David Icke: This is what we are
led to believe, but I can demonstrate that both the US and Canada have
never been free even from their very inception. The very cleverly
written US Constitution has all of the loopholes needed to circumvent it
at the appropriate time. The BNA Act in Canada does not even have the
implied protections of the US Constitution and is basically an act
spelling out the powers given to the appointed representative of the
King or Queen of England.
Joseph Duggan: Have you been able to identify the secret group behind
the secret societies we are aware of, such as the Council on
Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the
Bilderbergers, etc?
David Icke: I have positively
identified this group as what I call the Black Nobility, which includes
the Queen and Prince Phillip. By the time I get to Vancouver, I'll be
able to reveal the true role of the Queen of England and the real facts
around Lady Diana's death.
Joseph Duggan: One thing I don't understand is how this ÔBlack
Nobility' has been able to continue its manipulation of the
human race for thousands of years. Why do successive
generations follow suit?
David Icke: This is done through
the maintenance of blood lines. For instance, Elizabeth Alexandra Mary
Windsor, or Queen Elizabeth II, is, like all the royal families of
Europe, an ancestor of that pivotal figure in the take-over of
Britain William III, Prince of Orange, the man who signed into existence
the Bank of England. In short, the ancestors of the Windsors were
fundamental in putting the Black Nobility's William of Orange on the
British throne, after which the Bank of England and the power of the
City of London were firmly established. Queen Elizabeth, through her
Hanover ancestors, carries the bloodline of the Black Nobility in
Germany, back via the Black Nobility Venicians through the Phoenecians,
the Egyptians, to Sumer and, no doubt, Atlantis. Prince Charles can
trace 3,000 years of descent alone from Edward III (1312 - 1377), the
monarch who formed the elite Satanic Brotherhood group, the Order of the
Garter. Successive generations in these bloodlines follow their
ancestors because they are very carefully educated, initiated, and put
through Satanic rituals such that they are totally under the control of
the secret orders they are inducted into and whose direction they
eventually follow. If they don't, they are assassinated or taken out of
power.
Joseph Duggan: You have also been doing research regarding all the
missing children. What have you discovered?
David Icke: Directly linked to the
control being implemented by the Black Nobility is mind control,
Satanism, and the missing children. Ted Gundersen, a former high-ranking
member of the FBI, has given me figures of missing children from a
private organization in Denver where, of 19,000 missing children in
1995, only 11,000 were found. Eight thousand were still missing. If
these figures are extrapolated to the whole of the US, it means that
somewhere around 400,000 to 500,000 children go missing every year.
Apparently, similar figures exist for many parts of Canada mostly urban
areas of high population.
Joseph Duggan: Why don't we hear about all these missing children?
David Icke: The media reports the
sensational cases, but there are thousands of cases that they never
report. First of all, the US Federal registry of missing children is
only concerned with children where there is evidence that they have been
taken across state lines and therefore come under federal jurisdiction.
So, if you consult their figures, you see that they are much lower than
have been reported when you check and total up missing persons state by
state, as I did. Children who go missing within a state are often street
children who have been away from home for years, as well as many
children who are reported missing; but, because of the sheer volume of
missing persons, nothing much is done. There is also a great lack of
funding, social workers, and manpower to follow up on all of these
missing children.
Joseph Duggan: Where are they all disappearing to?
David Icke: This is what gets
upsetting. Many of them are taken into Satanic rituals for human
sacrifice, others are abducted into secret CIA and government mind
control projects. Cathy O'Brien was a victim of this type of operation,
except that her father sold her to MK-ULTRA and he became part of that
whole program. Many children are needed for these mind control
experiments and come through breeding programs, adoption agencies
(particularly, it seems, Catholic ones), from the Third World where
children are kidnapped and parents sell their children, and through a
network of Social Services agencies. There are also organizations whose
job it is to find children of the right genetic background for specific
mind control projects. Other children are kidnapped and sold as sex
slaves in the pedophile rings, some of which have penetrated to high
levels in the government of Canada, the US, Belgium, and Australia.
These rings have been exposed by individuals like Cathy O'Brien who
named Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, George Bush, Gerald Ford, etc, in
her book, Trance Formation of America. The same pedophile rings exist in
every Western country, but have not as yet been exposed. The white slave
market in the Orient and Arab countries is still active and, according
to Ted Gundersen, a white, blond, blue-eyed teenage girl can be sold for
$50,000. There are even kidnapping rings that will photograph
prospective children for clients and then grab the one they choose. This
is hard to believe, but it is happening.
Joseph Duggan: What is the good news in all of this?
David Icke: The great news is that
people all over the world are waking up to the truth about what is
really going on. It's as if a light has come on in human consciousness
and the Dark Nobility is desperately trying to maintain the darkness.
This information is painful and brings up a lot of fear and feelings of
helplessness in people, but if we can embrace it with love and
understanding, while realizing that it is only happening because we have
given up our power to these dark forces, it can be cleansed from our
world. However, as long as these activities continue to be carried out
in secret, and we are in denial about their existence, we are powerless
to change anything. Standing in your light of love and truth does not
mean that you personally have to go out and fight these forces, but it
contributes towards the light and love within human consciousness which
will finally overcome the dark forces. Sooner or later, we will all have
to decide which side to align ourselves with. I'm here to point out what
is really going on and to remind people that they have a choice and that
we do have the power to turn things around. In fact, as I travel, I feel
a tremendous turning of the tide. We are going to succeed, and the
change in consciousness I have experienced around the world is
phenomenal. We are part of it and, just as it is difficult for a fish to
understand what water is, it is hard for us to understand the tremendous
changes happening in the consciousness of our world. Yes, humanity is
waking up and we will see the effects of this tidal change in human
consciousness in our lifetime.
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